Mixing free will and determinism produces a caste system ( page )

The Hindus who ran to Islam, because they were deceived there was such a thing as a ‘spiritual caste’ at all and it turns out they were of the lowest caste ( with all the baggage that carries with it to a whole society ), did so because Islam was portrayed to be an equalizer between men as making “all men equal”. Yet they have already found that Islam carries with it its own caste system. The Arab immigrants are viewed amongst themselves as being ‘more pure Islamics’ and for the most part left Arab lands because they were themselves seen as a lower caste within their home country or in comparison with other tribes. Those former Hindus or non-Brahmins in general of certain occupations are seen as ‘less pure’ and in some instances have been excluded from mosques. Egad.

Many Islamics and Hindus argue over why this is so, not THAT it is so as kufu.

In another book “Waslus Sabab Fi Faslin Nasb”, written by him in support of Mufti Muhammad Shafi Usmani’s book “Nihayat al-Arab fi-Ghayat al-Nasb”, he contemptuously referred to the weaver caste as Julahas, condemning them for calling themselves Ansaris (“Helpers”) instead. He argued that this was forbidden as it was akin to changing ones’ nasb or descent by wrongly claiming to be descendants of the Ansars of Medina who had helped
the Prophet when he had migrated there from Mecca. To back his claim he invoked a tradition attributed to the Prophet, according to which the Prophet reportedly declared that a person who claims to be the son of anyone other than his father will not enter heaven.

Essentially, both the Hindus and the Islamics have a caste system and the above quote by an Islamic writer supports both: to say you are something other than what you are  –as defined by Islamics or Hindu caste systems — is to supposedly deny yourself heaven. Once they say you are a certain caste, you have to remain that way your entire life and pass that on to your children because it is supposedly determined by God. BUT: according to both Hinduism, Islam and Arminians, Romanists and Eastern Orthodox, you have free will and can’t get out of it, so its all up to you. Get that? It’s supposedly NOT up to you to get in or out of a particular religion that assigns your role in society, but it is up to you whatever you do within those bounds.

Note the careful mixing of free will and determinism by all non-Christians with the same result no matter the religious system invoked to excuse it. That is the classic cult mentality: to mix determinism and free will and end up saying “you are only responsible for what God has not pre-determined about you” or “God’s pre-determination depends on you” and yet to keep you a slave nonetheless to others by a false representation of election and predestination, but to pretend to be “like Calvinism”.

It is understandable on a certain fallen human level: a few demonically inspired Arabs made up Islam, have now deceived a lot more Arabs, and see everyone else as renting ideology from them. So they have a landlord mentality. The so-called Islamic holy sites outside of Arab lands are easily seen as attempts to get a independent franchise on the spiritual tourism business, which usually can be turned into political capital once a critical mass of the population has been enslaved by the new ideology-as-business-model. Islam comes in as a kind of communism-as-savior for everyman but has the usual results of a non-christian society: a cut throat dog eat dog way of life wherein certain families seek to place others beneath them with religious tools as Satan does it through them all.

Islam and Hinduism and even Arminianism is a sexy beast to a poor man and his wife looking for a way out of derision from the upper class, er, caste. But in the end, it is only the same lie wearing different clothes AND it is forbidden to look at the details from within the religion. One could go so far as to say that within the religions in question, it is immoral to see the truth of what the religions are actually doing to its own adherents.

The caste sytem has been legally outlawed in India but still remains very much a societal norms. The same problem exists in Pakistan among the Muslims. The links provided only scratch the surface of what has been and is being written about this by those involved while many in the West seem to be so stupefied by the smell of any new religion that comes along and the PR about itself it puts out through its agents in the popular press and as its own media campaigns.

Tantra sex is a very plain way men and women are snared: supposedly you’ve got free will, but there is a pre-determined ritual of sex you must perform that includes killing your children ..so you can keep doing the rituals; a sex caste of stupid persons according to their own lies of free will / those who cannot hear God and whom God hated in truth. The only immorality in that lie of free will is to escape it.

Beware of those who want to be in Calvinist churches, yet always seem to love Armininianism. They love the benefits of truth and yet literally mentally masterbate out loud about what the lie would like be if it were true and defend it as if it were the same as truth. Arminianism is just a pre-cursor to the worse forms of mixing “determinism and free will”.

Proverbs 1:29-33  Because they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of Jehovah;  they would none of my counsel, they despised all my reproof:  therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their way, and be filled with their own devices.  For the turning away of the simple shall slay them, and the prosperity of the foolish shall cause them to perish.   But whoso hearkeneth unto me shall dwell safely, and shall be at rest from fear of evil.

In the Name of Jesus Christ, Amen

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