Four Point ‘Calvinists’ are plain arminians

Matthew 7:15 -23 But beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but within are ravening wolves. By their fruits ye shall know them. Do men gather a bunch of grapes from thorns, or from thistles figs?  So every good tree produces good fruits, but the worthless tree produces bad fruits.  A good tree cannot produce bad fruits, nor a worthless tree produce good fruits.  Every tree not producing good fruit is cut down and cast into the fire.  By their fruits then surely ye shall know them.  Not every one who says to me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but he that does the will of my Father who is in the heavens. Many shall say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied through *thy* name, and through *thy* name cast out demons, and through *thy* name done many works of power?   and then will I avow unto them, I never knew you. Depart from me, workers of lawlessness.

When someone is telling you they just can’t seem to understand limited atonement or irresistible grace no matter how often or how long they study the question, but that they agree with you on the ‘other doctrines’ this is what they mean:

1. that there is only one speech in total reality and it is will-neutral and non-creating and within that one idealized meta-language, they cannot avoid the necessity of having to take words and construct certainty on this or that topic.. all by self-will. God supposedly forced that reality on them and thus ( in their mind ) ..on you. It is their job, their holy duty, to force you to say exactly that. After all, they ‘love’ you.

2. life is a journey of wandering through a will-neutral environment or a series of such idealized environments and speech ( to include the Word of God ) is simply part of that environment. They deny that God IS His Word and imply that Satan and God have the same speech. They deny that the Word of God or non-creating speech effects the one in whom it has entrance but pretend they always stay the same no matter who or what they hear and in that same being ‘do’ this action or that depending on their intellectual state in any given instant. I.E. God is not living in them doing as He pleases. They are supposedly living in them doing as they please by themselves with neither God or Satan using them or in them. They are Independent Agents.  Otherwise ..they wouldn’t have free will. And of course they think they’ve got free will, no matter what they say to the contrary.

3. If you do not have that same outlook, ‘they love you’, but will discipline you the first opportunity and label you a sower of discord and by as many subtle means as Satan can muster through them keep you out, throw you out and persecute you in any manner available to them.

After they have had the rule of the visible church for over two hundred years with their lies: look at the ruin of the church today. The ‘conservative ladies’ are more zealous to get an abortion for their daughter, get their daughter on the Pill  or sterilize themselves than the liberals ( the liberals have gay/sodomite sons and lesbian daughters ) and waves of such sterilization operations sweep through churches as planned assaults on the whole nation. The utter lack of new births in Jesus Christ is plainly evident in addition to fewer babies. Yet they pretend to churches that have escaped their lies so far that if they were in charge, spiritual maturity would blossom and a golden age of happiness and peace would rain from heaven.

Do not be deceived that just because someone says they affirm  Jesus Christ is their only Lord and Savior or the Bible is their only rule of faith that thereafter they can do and say as they please and deceive God in you. God is either in you or He is not. And He knows Himself in the other soul ..or not. It is not simply a matter of knowing the patterns of Satan’s lies or even the distinction between God as Word and non-creating speech: it is God living in you that says “something is not right here.” Listen to the spirit of Christ , the Father and the Holy Spirit in you.

Luke 11:42-52  But woe unto you, Pharisees, for ye pay tithes of mint and rue and every herb, and pass by the judgment and the love of God: these ye ought to have done, and not have left those aside.   Woe unto you, Pharisees, for ye love the first seat in the synagogues and salutations in the market-places.   Woe unto you, for ye are as the sepulchres which appear not, and the men walking over them do not know it .  And one of the doctors of the law answering says to him, Teacher, in saying these things thou insultest us also.  And he said, To you also woe, doctors of the law, for ye lay upon men burdens heavy to bear, and yourselves do not touch the burdens with one of your fingers.  Woe unto you, for ye build the sepulchres of the prophets, but your fathers killed them.   Ye bear witness then, and consent to the works of your fathers; for *they* killed them, and *ye* build their sepulchres .  For this reason also the wisdom of God has said, I will send to them prophets and apostles, and of these shall they kill and drive out by persecution,  that the blood of all the prophets which has been poured out from the foundation of the world may be required of this generation, from the blood of Abel to the blood of Zacharias, who perished between the altar and the house; yea, I say to you, it shall be required of this generation.  Woe unto you, the doctors of the law, for ye have taken away the key of knowledge; yourselves have not entered in, and those who were entering in ye have hindered.


2Timothy 2:19-21  Yet the firm foundation of God stands, having this seal, The Lord knows those that are his; and, Let every one who names the name of the Lord withdraw from iniquity.  But in a great house there are not only gold and silver vessels, but also wooden and earthen; and some to honour, and some to dishonour.  If therefore one shall have purified himself from these, in separating himself from them , he shall be a vessel to honour, sanctified, serviceable to the Master, prepared for every good work.

In the Name of Jesus Christ, Amen

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