Haiti, Part Two: You knew this was coming


2 Corinthians 11:19,20  For ye bear fools readily, being wise. For ye bear if any one bring you into bondage, if any one devour you , if any one get your money , if any one exalt himself, if any one beat you on the face.

Quick: for the preservation of history, count all the Calvinists in Haiti that are looting or how many are in government there.

Let’s set the record straight here: you can perhaps get the impression that a few days without food are cause for worry and a ‘health crisis’. Maybe you’ve been watching those survival shows where the star is trying to escape from the very place a lot of people are trying to get to and portraying that being there ( in the wilderness  ..after they took rather extreme measures to get there in order to film the escape) is some sort of catastrophe and a kind of self-rescue is in order to ‘stay hydrated’ and eat worms, grubs,strange plants that while strange to us, some tribes consider delicacies and the like. That the show is even on in a western civilization setting says something about the outlook on surviving in the midst of crisis: its a type of recreation.

Jesus Christ went 40 days without food or water. Moses as well. Christians regularly fast for extended periods or at least do fast for several days or even weeks. I have personally fasted for ten days. I have even fasted for pure weight loss purposes while doing strenuous physical fitness: over a two and half month period, doing two and three day fasts interrupted by two or three days of eating ( eating specifically what I was watching every one else enjoy),  I dropped forty pounds and went from doing zero pull ups to doing 12 while my time for a mile run went from around 12:00 minutes to around eight. In fact, I need to do it again.These are not strange or unheard of stories in civilization. People pay money for others to withhold food from them and push them through physical exercise for weight loss purposes. They call them Fat Farms.

Even pagans fast at times and these fasts are in the midst of plenty or at least the availability of food to such an extent that the wilderness is one of the few places you can go to actually get away from food. Regular, initial training of some of the branches of service includes food deprivation and severe rationing.

Yet we are to believe that in Haiti, a few days without food –for some– automatically induces them to strange behavior of looting, killing, turning on each other and the like while leaving those in the rubble to rot and no one ought to mention that reality that that behavior is not acceptable. We are to believe that the earthquake ate all the common sense, all the love, money, all the water, beer, liquor, food, old clothes, old cars and old computers. Everything except cell phones and texting.

While they are looting, those from the US, among others, are doing the work of finding the bodies and  looking for the living the looters and those they preoccupy at trying to stop them are ignoring and are doing so in the midst of the violence. ( Lesson: when you go to ‘save people’ and ‘do good deeds’ you take your life in your hands to even attempt it.) The looters have enough energy, taking a time out of all the idealized ‘suffering’ they are enduring to steal and kill. Some one else is doing the work that makes possible life and at least the semblance of civilization in Haiti so that some Haitians can be criminals. Someone else is setting the doll up again.

Out of all the work going on, a witchdoctor somewhere has time to stick a pin in the doll that is the US’s idealized heart saying in a thick accept “bring me money”.

While the witch doctor’s followers are looting, they obviously are not just looting food. They are looting everything. That is, they have such a perfect expectation that someone else is going to rebuild Haiti for free ( all the “loans” propaganda aside ) and there will in fact be a place where you can actually plug in a computer, a place where their neighbors have things ( like foreign currency and off shore goods )  so that a gun is necessary to rob them and forcibly sell them drugs, and a place to show off latest fashions while calling them ethnic originals. In short, a place of a more contemporary life in Haiti.

To take note of this is not a hatred of black people. It is simple honesty. It is the honesty of what happens to those who hate Jesus Christ and have made open, unapologetic pacts with Satan to get a few moments of praise from men here and there and to avoid the shame that always comes from a hatred of Jesus Christ. In fact it is in every way a hatred of black people to force ‘help’ on them and it is a hatred of one’s neighbor to force guilt on them if they aren’t screaming as loud about a false lack of charity or a false need for charity.

Posts are already appearing on the net wherein the ‘racialization of speech’ is lamented, looting is recast as ‘necessary for survival’, ( as if everyone is only stealing food, camping gear or the like ), and the usual mourning over the slow pace of goods being delivered for free is on-going. These are curiously, usually cast as within the province of white women and white liberal young men with goatees or homosexuals and such to proliferate, who are ‘outraged’ at the shame cast on their ideology’s failure to help anyone. The anonymity of the web at the least makes it appear that way. I suppose they apologize in advance for what they would do in such a crisis. ( think of a situation in which there might be no free Viagra, condoms, abortion pills, sterilization, abortion procedures, AIDS medication, ..a lack of a check from the government or a service from a charity house in some fashion )

As I have often heard, “when it comes to it, they will only riot, because they are so used to someone giving it to them. They think they are entitled to it and that all of it is appropriate.” In short, they see it as immoral to not be given whatever they ‘need’ per any given ideology of the moment.

They is a lot of people beside Haitians, but it also includes Haitians. Haiti has a looong history of money being dumped on it. The Charity business is such big business that disasters have become what Christmas is to merchants and Black Friday is the first few days of public Survivor Guilt. That is in addition to what the Charities really do is loot the public to build what must re-built next year after the natives have burned it, blown it up, contaminated it or just plain broke it because their god told them to break it in order to bring back ‘the gods’ who give them stuff.

This is not exaggerating at all. The natives of some pacific islands after WWII would leave effigies of planes made of logs and branches on abandoned runways and make up a ceremony in the hope of bringing back the planes that brought in the goods they were given during war operations.

Unfortunately for some, it is hard to build an stick figure that look likes an earthquake, but they have capitalized on the western fascination for dolls and transference of emotion to non-existence, falsely idealized things when such things happen. Think of the little girl who wants to be absolutely certain her doll, a piece of plastic with fake hair and painted on face, really understands the depth of love she holds for it or to really Know that the doll feels warm rather than cold, satisfaction rather than hunger. It can’t be done, yet she is deceived all the other little girls get that knowledge all the time and she is literally enslaved to the notion she must be making a mistake in the ‘how to understand’ part of that scenario. The same thing happens in every natural disaster and political manipulation in which the people themselves are looters and killers over trinkets and other people want to make sure they are clothed, fed, healthy and warmed as if they were not really the way they are.

The saying “they don’t think like we do”, is not a racist saying. It is a Christian saying about non-Christian people that is true. Those who do not have the mind of Christ panic over nothing and keep panicking over nothing and over not getting what is necessary to keep doing evil. And that goes on while those in Christ must wait on Christ in all kinds of situations in patience.

The Democrats prove that looting can take place among white people even when there is no crisis, but that a doll/stick figure of ‘crisis’ can be made up in an attempt to get the same results; that the lack of being able to prove to oneself that the ideology in the other person’s mind knows it has been warmed, fed and the like can be legitimately held forth as a metric of some sort that is supposed evidence of being on the right path. Perhaps they need to ask themselves why they needed a black guy who hates Christ to head up the whole operation as playing to the stereotype.

God never Said you have to pay your enemies bills so he or she can keep attacking you or keep attacking each other. God never Said to keep your enemy within the ideology and lie that makes him or her the enemy. God never Said lies are just “another view” or that Satan can be reformed, or that you have to rebuild Satan’s house –at all, much less better and more modern than your own– when God throws it down.

2 Corinthians 11:14,15  And it is not wonderful, for Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light.  It is no great thing therefore if his ministers also transform themselves as ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

In the Name of Jesus Christ, Amen

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  1. Bob
    January 18, 2010 at 9:11 pm

    I found your site when I did a WordPress tab search for Calvinist.

    Below are some thoughts and questions came to mind while reading both of your posts related to Haiti after experiencing a devastating earthquake:

    First, why do you care? I couldn’t help but notice the references to Calvin(ism) to which I sense that you’re of the Calvinist belief that God determines who will be saved. If that is true, then why “pile-on” the misery many Haitians are currently experiencing. I don’t intend to come across as harsh, but if your view of God not electing the nation of Haiti (for whatever reason) is indeed correct, then I’m hard-pressed to understand what it is that you’re trying to accomplish with these posts?

    Second, I’m curious as to where within these posts on Haiti that you exemplify the love of God? It could well be that you and I might have similar thoughts as to the benefit of continued financial aid over many years if it turns out that the money has in essence gone down a rat hole. However, after such a horrific natural event as this earthquake, is there no heart within you to ache for those people – even if you believe that God brought about this earthquake? More to the point, if Jesus is indeed God (as I believe him to be), are there examples in the New Testament where Jesus turns away his compassion from those who are suffering?

    I’m not sure what to make with regard to your reference to 2 Chronicles 19:2. Perhaps this is an apples-to-oranges comparison, but one verse that I would offer up in rebuttal is Matt 5:44.

    One last thing – you said,
    •True Christianity is not at all about ‘picking Christianity’ over other religions. You must be born again in Christ and cannot ‘decide’ to do so. So there is no legitimate ‘charity evangelism’ or ‘cultural sensitivity’ necessary. People who are deceived that you can be a Christian by simply deciding to be so are deceived specifically so they can be milked of everything they have on the premise that being nice to someone will make / get them to ‘make a decision for Jesus’, force your church grow and ‘make God happy’ ; to make them feel guilty by twisting their own deceptions against them: to make them cowards.

    As one who struggles with Calvinism in general and the concept of unconditional election in particular, I would welcome you to visit my blog, http://www.martinsmercurialmusings.wordpress.com. Please feel free to review and comment on what I’ve written with regard to Calvinism. And it could be that I’ll have more to say about Calvinistic thought with respect to your statements from this post.

    Respectfully,

    Bob

    • christianclarityreview
      January 18, 2010 at 11:14 pm

      Bob,
      I have visited your blog and posted to your comments and you have posted to this blog. I see no reason to return to yours, but I understand why you would need to pretend you had never been here before. You post for political and theological pretense and the effects you hope those things will generate in others like yourself.

      The people of the United States as a whole are continually attacked via the charity route. At first, such attacks were constrained to the appeals to free will and the twists of it: “please give”, them “please give or we will say you have sinned”. Now the attacks are coming from the charity organizations ( Oxfam in particular ) as wanting overt taxation (progressing from “please give” to “we’ll take” ) to fund these types of organizations and in such manners as they see fit in order to call them successful: they have set themselves up as essential priests who have the final say of what the metrics are to be.

      That’s just the money end of the equation before it ever gets to the target population: the grift, the theft, the livings made on the word “charity”. That is, that deals with those being robbed to pay for the evils of others. It’s a two-sided equation.

      In addition, the ideology that says “no matter what anyone actually believes, everyone is entitled to a minimum standard of “civilized benefits” is a lie. Haiti is infamous for its voodoo, its Satan worship and the like. It is famous for hating Jesus Christ. The other Satanists in the world want to use whatever disaster comes along to enforce a lie that God never punishes –that free will exists, AND that there are no consequences enforced by God ..that God would never be so rude as break the emotional etiquette of liars and those who hate Him AND that to even imply He visits in wrath in this present age on those who make a virtue out of hating Him in public is supposedly the height of immorality.

      God sent Haiti the earthquake. Before that He sent them a deception, just like He has sent you, Bob, that denies Christ, becuase when He went tot hem as Word, they despised Him.

      2 Thess 2:11,12 And for this reason God sends to them a working of error, that they should believe what is false, that all might be judged who have not believed the truth, but have found pleasure in unrighteousness.

      Your deception claims to love Christ by name, but performs the same demonic actions. Their deception openly calls on Satan and demons as lord. Rather than see you ought to have a fear of God, instead you want to cover over what God has done and supposedly be a hero that delivers everyone from that very fear as supposedly doing them a favor.

      I can certainly understand why you as an overt Arminian, who likes to portray himself as “struggling” with Calvinism would feel threatened by the exposure of the lie of free will as the foundation for controlling behavior. The lie of free will is your bread and butter.

      In this instance, the behavior you want to control ( as a ‘good thing’ ) is the charity for what are portrayed as generic victims who are Units of Emotional Opportunity for the victims within the ideology you espouse, mere generic hearts who are trying their best to do the generic ideology of human happiness that just happens to exclude Jesus Christ. They are proud of it, they stand on it and shout it and you support them in repeatedly doing so.

      I expected nothing less from you Bob. There you are, publicly struggling with and doing complex emotional math about what you want to portray as complex theology that is not for human benefit ( some men are saved, but we are new creatures in Jesus Christ thereafter and no longer men) and you are seeking to portray yourself as being charitable about that theology and ‘give it a chance’ to prove itself to be an exact match with your non-God fearing, demonic heart of man.

      —————-

      Piling on?

      Luke 13:1-5 Now at the same time there were present some who told him of the Galileans whose blood Pilate mingled with that of their sacrifices.And he answering said to them, Think ye that these Galileans were sinners beyond all the Galileans because they suffered such things? No, I say to you, but if ye repent not, ye shall all perish in the same manner. Or those eighteen on whom the tower in Siloam fell and killed them, think ye that *they* were debtors beyond all the men who dwell in Jerusalem? No, I say to you, but if ye repent not, ye shall all perish in like manner.

      Oh the inhumanity?

      Instance in the New Testament where Jesus turns his back on those he had not been sent to help:

      Luke 9:59,60 And he said to another, Follow me. But he said, Lord, allow me to go first and bury my father. But Jesus said to him, Suffer the dead to bury their own dead, but do *thou* go and announce the kingdom of God.

      A woman who was not a Jew, and of a race famous for its idolatry receives grace only after she evidences faith in Jesus Christ. Note that Jesus Christ –God Himself in flesh as Word — calls those not of the household of faith in God “dogs” and counts them unworthy of grace.

      Mark 7:25-30 But immediately a woman, whose little daughter had an unclean spirit, having heard of him, came and fell at his feet (and the woman was a Greek, Syrophenician by race), and asked him that he would cast the demon out of her daughter. But Jesus said to her, Suffer the children to be first filled; for it is not right to take the children’s bread and cast it to the dogs. But she answered and says to him, Yea, Lord; for even the dogs under the table eat of the children’s crumbs. And he said to her, Because of this word, go thy way, the demon is gone out of thy daughter. And having gone away to her house she found the demon gone out, and her daughter lying on the bed.

      ONLY after evidence of actual faith –not pretended faith, not fake faith, not populists religion did she receive grace and the same grace as those of the household of faith share from God.

      Only later did God send Paul to the nations and only then to those names who were to be saved, not as a ‘generic blessing’ even though the faith of some gave benefit to many as it is to this day.

      Guys like you will always make hay out any instance that threatens your lies as religion. But since I don’t have to spend my time talking people into religion, Bob, and re-talking, them into it, and re-talking them into it, I can actually be used of God to free them from oppression. That would be the people of the United States, Bob. The people of Haiti have rejoiced to refuse Christ.

      And I am aware of a seminary in Haiti that had some more damage but no one was hurt and they are helping the people. They are supported by a local Orthodox Presbyterian Church. They are more interested giving people the Word of God than money and gifts. People who have the actual Word of God, ( not your false version of it ) can build infrastructure without a problem and without looting it.

      But since you can’t give that kind of charity, I perfectly understand why you would have to stick up for worldly goods. If things stay on the usual Arminian track, you’ll post again and say I have taken God out of context, or something like “when it says “little dogs”, I don’t see where you can say he was actually saying “dogs.” and “when he says “dead” I think that was just a metaphor” ..or some other nonsense you enjoy and think is witty.

      It is sin and anti-Christ for all involved for a victim of a catastrophe to call out to false god/ demon for aid, and you run over “as a Christian” and say “here you go.” And you know it. Because you are a fake Christian and have the spirit of Balaam, “who taught Israel to sin”, you seek to catch those who are ignorant in “generic, expected behaviors” that are sin before God. That won’t last forever, Bob, no matter how much indignation you pretend to have for the downtrodden.

      Matthew 21:18-22 But early in the morning, as he came back into the city, he hungered. And seeing one fig-tree in the way, he came to it and found on it nothing but leaves only. And he says to it, Let there be never more fruit of thee for ever. And the fig-tree was immediately dried up. And when the disciples saw it , they wondered, saying, How immediately is the fig-tree dried up! And Jesus answering said to them, Verily I say unto you, If ye have faith, and do not doubt, not only shall ye do what is done to the fig-tree, but even if ye should say to this mountain, Be thou taken away and be thou cast into the sea, it shall come to pass. And all things whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive.

      Matthew 7:15-20 But beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but within are ravening wolves. By their fruits ye shall know them. Do men gather a bunch of grapes from thorns, or from thistles figs? So every good tree produces good fruits, but the worthless tree produces bad fruits. A good tree cannot produce bad fruits, nor a worthless tree produce good fruits. Every tree not producing good fruit is cut down and cast into the fire. By their fruits then surely ye shall know them.

      In the Name of Jesus Christ, Amen

  2. Bob
    January 19, 2010 at 12:38 am

    Dear Charles,

    I am, frankly, surprised and taken aback by your response. For the record – at work over lunch today I was trying to find some Calvinist blogs with which, believe it or not, I could better understand some of the ~9 pages of comments that you had posted on my site over the last two-three weeks. Your site was at the top – most likely because you had just recently posted your 2nd Haiti article. The title caught my attention. Your first sentence ensured I read the whole thing. It did cross my mind that CCR was your sight, but I honestly wasn’t sure. Hence, I wrote my comment as if it wasn’t. Still, I wouldn’t have changed anything. My thoughts are what they are – a response to your post.

    I regret that you feel my response (and probably my blog as well) is for “political and theological pretense and the effects you hope those things will generate in others like yourself.” With respect, Charles, I write, think about, and respond to questions and comments for – quite frankly, the selfish desire to understand if Calvinism is correct. I won’t bore you with the details, but I assure you that I wouldn’t be putting in this much time and effort if it didn’t matter to me because of a lack of assurance of salvation.

    Nevertheless, I ask again – why do you care? You stated that you believe God has “sent me a deception” and therefore, it would seem (if I understand Calvinistic arguments here) that I can’t possibly see through the error and latch onto the truth for I have no free-will in this matter. And yet, you commented on my blog, “Believe what your conscience tells you is true. If that continues to be “free will”, then so be it. I continue to appreciate your patience with some friendly efforts to at least try to explain Calvinism… :)” Thinking back on our exchanges, you must have thought that there was the potential for me to see the truth (at least the truth as you portend it). Somehow, at least in my small mind, your responses inferred that you yourself are not convinced as to God intentionally deceiving me.

    Well, it’s probably best to stop here. If you care to, please look for my response regarding your the previous comments you’ve made on my posts. In addition, you’ve provided some scriptural references here that I’ll want to look at.

    Sincerely,

    Bob

  3. christianclarityreview
    January 19, 2010 at 1:35 am

    I read your response Bozo. Even on our blog. That’s how I knew what your responses are like and what you think is clever debate. BTW, my name is not Charles. You only had to look at those responses to know that.

    When I see things like “frankly ..surprised..taken aback.” it sets off my BS meter rather loudly: that I am in the presence of a person who is used to hearing a certain phrasing of etiquette and passing that etiquette along rather mindlessly on the premise that it is surely a shield to hide the fact you have lied about Christ and it will all be covered over in the standardized phrasing of a type of debate-speak in which arminians love to engage. You put up the emotional shield as if that were a standard part of God’s discourse and then act hurt in an effort to hide lies.

    I am in fact absolutely certain that God has deceived you. On the initial hope that you could hear the Word of God, I prayed for you and posted to your blog. But you can’t.

    So the same standard that is expected of Haiti is expected of you. No double standards going on. You have received more truth than most people ever get and have subtly laughed it off. If you were my brother in Christ and God had given you some wisdom that I have not seen, then I could hear it through you. In fact, that would be optimum. But that’s not the case. You preach a different gospel in the guise of ‘searching’ for the pure one. The responses were, as you say, “back then”.

    I can well afford to not be liked by men and all those who hate Christ and still be used of God to speak Him as Word to whatever effect He desires. In fact, I rather glory in it. What is held in high regard in this world is an abomination to God. I would prefer that all who read this blog immediately be saved. That’s not going to happen. But as God gives grace, I’m not changing it or taking one Word He has Said.

    There are those that get the Isaiah effect from hearing the gospel. For all I know, you are one of those people.

    So by all means, keep debating ( someone else ) and holding out you are just a curious guy who can’t ever seem to get to the truth. ..so that must mean you already found it. So it goes.

    Titus 3:10,11 An heretical man after a first and second admonition have done with, knowing that such a one is perverted, and sins, being self-condemned.

    I have no spoken to you in parables but in blatant truth. Yet you cannot hear.

    Matthew 13:13-15 For this cause I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear nor understand; and in them is filled up the prophecy of Esaias, which says, Hearing ye shall hear and shall not understand, and beholding ye shall behold and not see; for the heart of this people has grown fat, and they have heard heavily with their ears, and they have closed their eyes as asleep, lest they should see with the eyes, and hear with the ears, and understand with the heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

    timothy

    In the Name of Jesus Christ, Amen

  4. Bob
    January 19, 2010 at 2:10 am

    Timothy,

    If I had an excuse, I give it – but I don’t – somehow I got confused as to the comments you and Charles had made on some of my blog posts. I apologize. No offense was intended.

    Bob

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