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The disadvantage of believing in human free will and ( as regards) learning


If you are deceived you have free will, you are also deceived you always have it –you can’t turn it on and off. Supposedly, as the theological side of that lie goes,  God forced it on you and you couldn’t get rid of it even if you wanted to. That means that ( supposedly ) you always have to be doing something with it –even if only as thought.

When you want to learn a new language for instance, you have to think of the language you already have as doing something that you can do something with and put that aside to make sense out of the new language. Instead of thinking in one language, now you’ve got two to control. Now you’ve got to ‘do’ something with two different things, neither of whom can be ‘left alone’ but both of which you must control in some way to simply keep being assured you have free will.

Not only must you see language as will-neutral ( as having no effect on your will other than the necessity to control language ) but you must ‘do’ this in the midst of real life with all its distractions and while supposedly rotating whatever knowledge is necessary for the instant to the front: ideologically, that means you have to keep an inventory of what you know and get the right thing to the body and mind in some order at all times.

And this is happening outside of any ideology that you may have even if you ‘change’ ideologies or religions. Non-creating Language is a living creature, not a will-neutral ‘x’ –that’s why you can’t simply stop believing A and switch to system B on the drop a hat. The belief is not will neutral at all. Those spirits can be joined or switched, but you can’t do that on your own and when it happens other than being non-metaphorically made a new creature in Jesus Christ, those to whom it happens have only been the victim of shamans, sorcerers, warlocks and witches.

So in the midst of trying to learn something new ( new languages aren’t necessarily ‘true’ things simply because a lot of people say them, so I don’t say ” ..learn something true” as a new language except in Christ..) , you also have to manage what is already in you and all the extraneous things others are surreptitiously trying to teach you and to some extent succeeding.

So learning to a free willer becomes harder and harder over time and must be so in order to be pious to the doctrine of free will itself. The fact that learning becomes hard to them is both a impediment in their lives and a kind of glory/pride that they have so much free will and have filled up its time with valuable ..stuff to ‘do’. They are fond of saying “Children learn things faster” for that reason. They are also fond of training sayings like “muscle memory” and “you just do it automatically” as supposed signs of professionalism. Free willers are always trying to get out of the effects of believing in free will to gain a momentary advantage and almost always to make money.

The Buddhist ( and Sikhs )  pretend they have gotten out of believing in free will and thus are ‘free’. Indeed, that is really their whole religious goal and ‘journey’. But of course, they have not, as anyone who looks at their actual lives and the lives of those they deceive can see. No one who has non-creating speech as their god can get Out.

A Buddhist joke:

Buddhist guy walks through a strange land, carrying Buddhist doctrine inside him. In his own eyes he is wise. Has a hard time picking up the spirits to speak the new language. All he can say is “I don’t understand.” to the friendly faces –and he is scared to death some unfriendly faces will confront him sooner or later and he won’t even be able to say what a great guy he is or how wise is he is in order to defend the house of his demons ( his body ). He mournfully walks with his head hung low saying to the spirits in him “If only I didn’t have free will. I am unworthy student.”

The lie of free will says that if you know something, you can act on it. That’s why it is always the free willers who effectively worship their own realizations and think they can do something to get more of them. God Says you can’t and you can’t:

Hebrews 12:16,17  lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one meal sold his birthright  for ye know that also afterwards, desiring to inherit the blessing, he was rejected, (for he found no place for repentance) although he sought it earnestly with tears.

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Hebrews 4:12,13  For the word of God is living and operative, and sharper than any two-edged sword, and penetrating to the division of soul and spirit, both of joints and marrow, and a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the  heart.   And there is not a creature unapparent before him; but all things are naked and laid bare to his eyes, with whom we have to do.

In the Name of Jesus Christ, Amen

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  1. January 1, 2010 at 8:46 pm

    wha…what was that? You believe in free will because you have no choice in the matter.

    • christianclarityreview
      January 1, 2010 at 9:27 pm

      Those who are deceived they have free will are so deceived because of the predetermined counsel of God regarding that. God says that:

      Romans 8:18- For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the coming glory to be revealed to us. For the anxious looking out of the creature expects the revelation of the sons of God:
      for the creature has been made subject to vanity, not of its will, but by reason of him who has subjected the same , in hope that the creature itself also shall be set free from the bondage of corruption into the liberty of the glory of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groans together and travails in pain together until now. And not only that , but even *we* ourselves, who have the first-fruits of the Spirit, we also ourselves groan in ourselves, awaiting adoption, that is the redemption of our body. For we have been saved in hope; but hope seen is not hope; for what any one sees, why does he also hope? But if what we see not we hope, we expect in patience.

      therefore:

      Psalm 14:2,3 Jehovah looked down from the heavens upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, that did seek God. They have all gone aside, they are together become corrupt: there is none that doeth good, not even one.

      and

      John 3:2,3 he came to him by night, and said to him, Rabbi, we know that thou art come a teacher from God, for none can do these signs that thou doest unless God be with him. Jesus answered and said to him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except any one be born anew he cannot see the kingdom of God.

      While the gospel cannot be honestly said to be totally ‘a thing spoken to get you out of the lie of human free will’, it does indeed have that pre-determined effect.

      As for those who cannot hear the gospel:

      2 Thess 2:11,12 And for this reason God sends to them a working of error, that they should believe what is false,
      that all might be judged who have not believed the truth, but have found pleasure in unrighteousness.

      To the wicked God Says through many and me: Your best honesty is not going to work out for you to do what you want. It is already destroying you in the guise of making you happy. It was sent from God to do just that so that you would know that God wounds and God heals, God throws down and God saves. You can see that is isn’t working for you. You can nod and say “It is not working for me.” But you can’t get out of it without the grace of God. That’s how it is.

      Whatever new ideology some think to hide in is already the thing they will know in the future wasn’t as dark as they thought it was. There are lots of types of getting free. God only sets the reprobate free from one delusion so they can be afraid before Him and not be able to do anything about their doom. God Says to those who cannot hear God:

      Psalm 37:12,13 The wicked plotteth against the righteous, and gnasheth his teeth against him. The Lord laugheth at him; for he seeth that his day is coming.

      Isaiah 37:22,23 this is the word which Jehovah hath spoken against him: The virgin-daughter of Zion despiseth thee, laugheth thee to scorn; the daughter of Jerusalem shaketh her head at thee. Whom hast thou reproached and blasphemed? and against whom hast thou exalted the voice? Against the Holy One of Israel hast thou lifted up thine eyes on high.


      Psalm 52:3-7 Thou hast loved evil rather than good, lying rather than to speak righteousness. Selah. Thou hast loved all devouring words, O deceitful tongue! *God shall likewise destroy thee for ever; he shall take thee away, and pluck thee out of thy tent, and root thee out of the land of the living. Selah. The righteous also shall see, and fear, and shall laugh at him, saying, Behold the man that made not God his strength, but put confidence in the abundance of his riches, and strengthened himself in his avarice.

      All my life in this corrupt flesh God will use me to take from the wicked all the comfort they think to have as part of the gospel to the elect in earshot of the reprobate:

      Mat 13:12 for whoever has, to him shall be given, and he shall be caused to be in abundance; but he who has not, even what he has shall be taken away from him.

      In the Name of Jesus Christ, Amen

  2. January 6, 2010 at 7:30 am

    Quote all the scripture you want. It doesn’t amount to a hill of beans when arguing the free will/determinism debate. However, I actually am more on the deterministic end, in a non-god way. I just think of free-will as more of a language trick we’ve fallen into.

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