Calvinism’s failure to perform an Arminian gospel


..is not sin. It is righteousness.

The constant pretense by Arminians that Calvinism is wrong, can’t do, and is in error concerning the Arminian gospel and its intricacies along with a host of  like accusations are all artifacts from a covert attempt to make out that there is no such thing as a false gospel being preached by the Arminians that Calvinism outright rejects, but that there is supposed one gospel that both are seeking to claim lordship over in order to outperform each other within. All the objections of Arminians against Calvinists come from the foundation as a pretense that if a Calvinist does not say Arminians are brethren, then a Calvinist can’t outperform an Arminian with/in the Arminian gospel and that is supposedly a genuine fault that the Arminians have discovered.

Do not ever think that free willers and new creatures in Jesus Christ are all working for the same gospel or the same effects of the same gospel. Calvinists as non-metaphorical new creatures in Jesus Christ in no way seek to copy Arminian results. We are not after “converts” as free willed decision makers ‘for Jesus’ and we do not need ‘leadership principles’ or effeminate emotional etiquette  as functional Nazi game theory in order to bring about functional ‘decisional’ salvation. Thus Arminians/Romanists/Eastern Orthodox are always saying things along the lines of “but you haven’t answered all my objections”: they seek to portray that their objections are founded on a commonly shared gospel as universals when they in fact are simply part of a scheme to lie.

If you read blog posts on these things you could get the distinct impression that only one gospel is being ‘debated’. You have to look up church decisions and doctrinal statements before it becomes obviously clear that there are two different gospels if you cannot hear God in His Word as Scripture and are seeking to play the part of the dispassionate observer. If you know that you have been born again in Jesus Christ as a non-metaphorical new creature in Jesus Christ, you know Calvinism is truth and is the genuine gospel. If you want to appear religious and want to convert other people to the way you see things, both for denominational and for secular political purposes then you will usually side with Arminians, even though that won’t work for you like they pretend.

Armianism /free will is the ‘other gospel’ God warns us against through Paul:

Galatians 1:6-10  I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:  Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.  But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.  For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.

Plainly God is in charge of speaking of His gospel and does not grant even His slaves a grant of immunity for speaking a false gospel. Paul does not seek to indemnify himself for future error. Paul knew that if God willed it, he himself could be seized on by a lying spirit. Paul did not ever pretend anyone ought to do whatever Paul said no matter what Paul said ..Unless they knew it to be the voice of God through him. Only then would it be irresistible grace. Only then could it have been irresistible grace. It is proved to have been that exact grace by the fruit God wrought through Paul. God Says of false prophets ( not Paul ) that they speak but not of His counsel and that if they had stood in His counsel then they would have turned the people from error:

Jeremiah 23:22  But if they had stood in my counsel, and had caused my people to hear my words, then they should have turned them from their evil way, and from the evil of their doings.

God spoken through the Apostles in order to turn to the people from error unto life in Christ as irresistible grace –Himself as Word, not as ‘will-neutral holy information’. All that seeks to be an “offer” from God is anti-Christ as non-creating speech.

God does not grant any sort of blanket immunity on voices who come from paradise or those that listen to them as the Romanists and Eastern Orthodox imply.  All false gospels are condemned, along with those that speak them ‘for God’ from supposed freedom of will.  All false gospels are condemned by whoever speaks them along with those that say they speak truth.”But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

Accursed is accursed. It is not “brethren with bad theology”.

Free willers as a whole deny God and then seek to perform mere vain religion as supposed evidence they love Him. It makes perfect sense that free willers must always find some fault with Calvinism because Calvinism blatantly demonstrates an Arminian/Romanist/Eastern Orthodox ‘gospel’ to be the lie it actually is. It makes perfect sense that they should always be trying to fix Calvinists in one instance and denigrate us in another. They are servants of Satan whose best honesty is that they serve Jesus Christ.

Do not ever be deceived that someone who has made a lifestyle of preaching the false gospel  and who has had, at the least, to study the same Scriptures you read for a very long time and who may very well read, write and speak ten or twelve different languages and has demonstrated a long history of such has to be a Christian because they think they are and are  in perfect accord with human philosophy and the dictates of all non-creating speech. They are lying dogs who delight in lying and been taught and thus teach others to lie. They teach tongues to lie by spreading lying spirits as doctrines. They are overt witches and sorcerers who have achieved a certain cloak over their own understanding as God has given them over to it.

Psalms 12:2-4  They speak vanity every one with his neighbour: with flattering lips and with a double heart do they speak.  The LORD shall cut off all flattering lips, and the tongue that speaketh proud things:  Who have said, With our tongue will we prevail; our lips are our own: who is lord over us?

As for us in Christ, God plainly Says :

2 Corinthians 6:4-10  But in all things approving ourselves as the ministers of God, in much patience, in afflictions, in necessities, in distresses,  In stripes, in imprisonments, in tumults, in labours, in watchings, in fastings;  By pureness, by knowledge, by longsuffering, by kindness, by the Holy Ghost, by love unfeigned,  By the word of truth, by the power of God, by the armour of righteousness on the right hand and on the left,  By honour and dishonour, by evil report and good report: as deceivers, and yet true;  As unknown, and yet well known; as dying, and, behold, we live; as chastened, and not killed;  As sorrowful, yet alway rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; as having nothing, and yet possessing all things.

..in honor and dishonor, by evil report and good report, as deceivers and yet true..

Somewhere right now in the web, in the pulpit, in the seminary, in the business luncheon, in the church van, in the governmental setting and in a home a God damned Arminian is smiling on the one hand and doing the hard sell on the other to catch a victim soul and setting up to find fault with anyone who plainly proves what they are doing and what they are: the theological underpinnings of dividing the people so that socialism, fascism, communism and the enemies of all free people everywhere can take over with more free willer doctrines. Do not be deceived we are all seeking the same thing and fighting over how to get there.

Look at the last one hundred years of governmental rule in the United States and pick out all the Calvinists. There is no more than a handful at best in the whole bureaucracy. But who gets the blame in the pretense that those have been Christians in the mouth of free willers of all stripes?

Calvinists. Capitalism.

What you have seen before your own eyes in and as government is a bunch anti-Calvinists who were supposedly pro-Christ and pro-‘values’ set up and perpetuate the lie of human free will as a functional god in addition to introducing and perpetuating abortion ( as supposedly finding baby killing themes in their Bibles ), homosexuality ( as supposedly finding mandated immorality in their Bibles ) and criminality in business ( as supposedly finding cronyism,  bribery and outright theft in their Bibles ) and constantly trying to blame Calvinism. You have seen the age of Arminianism and all its “benefits”.

In order for any peace or genuine prosperity to exist, the lie of human free will must at all times be fully exposed as the lie it actually is and those who are promulgating it stopped.

Titus 1:10,11  For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision:  Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre’s sake.

There are those who say that Cromwell punished the Arminians too much. The fact is he didn’t do half enough. Even he didn’t really understand who and what they were, but fell for the lie that they meant well and were just doing Jesus their way  ..and that they had a duty to do so if that’s what they really thought.

Galatians 6:7-10  Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.  For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.  And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.  As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith.

In the Name of Jesus Christ, Amen

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  1. katz
    January 2, 2010 at 5:02 am

    Romanists? You could at least pretend not to be a bigot.

    • christianclarityreview
      January 2, 2010 at 9:23 pm

      Did I get under your skin Collen?

      I’m quite content to be seen as anything as long as those who are of God are blessed.

      John 3:11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that which we know,

      In the Name of Jesus Christ, Amen

  2. mike
    January 15, 2010 at 4:05 am

    Jeremiah 18

    1 This is the word that came to Jeremiah from the LORD : 2 “Go down to the potter’s house, and there I will give you my message.” 3 So I went down to the potter’s house, and I saw him working at the wheel. 4 But the pot he was shaping from the clay was marred in his hands; so the potter formed it into another pot, shaping it as seemed best to him.

    5 Then the word of the LORD came to me: 6 “O house of Israel, can I not do with you as this potter does?” declares the LORD. “Like clay in the hand of the potter, so are you in my hand, O house of Israel. 7 If at any time I announce that a nation or kingdom is to be uprooted, torn down and destroyed, 8 and if that nation I warned repents of its evil, then I will relent and not inflict on it the disaster I had planned. 9 And if at another time I announce that a nation or kingdom is to be built up and planted, 10 and if it does evil in my sight and does not obey me, then I will reconsider the good I had intended to do for it.

    11 “Now therefore say to the people of Judah and those living in Jerusalem, ‘This is what the LORD says: Look! I am preparing a disaster for you and devising a plan against you. So turn from your evil ways, each one of you, and reform your ways and your actions.’ 12 But they will reply, ‘It’s no use. We will continue with our own plans; each of us will follow the stubbornness of his evil heart.’ ”

    13 Therefore this is what the LORD says:
    “Inquire among the nations:
    Who has ever heard anything like this?
    A most horrible thing has been done
    by Virgin Israel.

    14 Does the snow of Lebanon
    ever vanish from its rocky slopes?
    Do its cool waters from distant sources
    ever cease to flow? [a]

    15 Yet my people have forgotten me;
    they burn incense to worthless idols,
    which made them stumble in their ways
    and in the ancient paths.
    They made them walk in bypaths
    and on roads not built up.

    16 Their land will be laid waste,
    an object of lasting scorn;
    all who pass by will be appalled
    and will shake their heads.

    17 Like a wind from the east,
    I will scatter them before their enemies;
    I will show them my back and not my face
    in the day of their disaster.”

    18 They said, “Come, let’s make plans against Jeremiah; for the teaching of the law by the priest will not be lost, nor will counsel from the wise, nor the word from the prophets. So come, let’s attack him with our tongues and pay no attention to anything he says.”

    19 Listen to me, O LORD;
    hear what my accusers are saying!

    20 Should good be repaid with evil?
    Yet they have dug a pit for me.
    Remember that I stood before you
    and spoke in their behalf
    to turn your wrath away from them.

    21 So give their children over to famine;
    hand them over to the power of the sword.
    Let their wives be made childless and widows;
    let their men be put to death,
    their young men slain by the sword in battle.

    22 Let a cry be heard from their houses
    when you suddenly bring invaders against them,
    for they have dug a pit to capture me
    and have hidden snares for my feet.

    23 But you know, O LORD,
    all their plots to kill me.
    Do not forgive their crimes
    or blot out their sins from your sight.
    Let them be overthrown before you;
    deal with them in the time of your anger.

    Brother, I gentaly ask you to meditate on this scripture, comepare it with Romans 9 and see if it fits your theology. Please do not “get all up in arms” about another free willer trying to attack your doctrine. I seek not to attack you. I am concerned however by your bold accusations. The verses I have thought of for you are 5-11. They speak of a God who is the sovereign potter in control. He has to power to do what He wants with the human clay. He is extending here a warning telling His chosen nation to repent or be destoryed. Our soveriegn God declaires that He will relent of His wrath on wicked nations if they repent, not just Israel. When I read this and then interperet Romans nine, I see a different picture than the calvinist one. God chooses to use nations and people for his purposes. When I read Romans 9 I do not see a God Saving Jacob and damning Esau, but a God chosing for service and a bloodline for the Lord Jesus Christ In the Isrealite bloodline and not the edomite bloodline. When did Esau ever serve Jacob? He never did. I beleive that this is referring to the nations of Israel an edom, not personal savation. Don’t blast me for my post, pray, ask God to either comefirm this or deny it to you and for protection from the enemy that you be not decieved either way, as to me being right or me being wrong. I would urge you in Christ to be careful in you harsh words to Arminians. Wether you beleive it or not, you have brothers in the Lord who belong to the Anabaptist movement. Satan will use hateful comments to drive a wedge in and alienate those who you could have fellowship with. Make no mistake, we are coming to the end times my friend and you and I will have a lot of other things worry about besides calvinism and arminianism. Things like holding on to the faith in the face of percecution, things like new age taking over many a church, things like true Bible beleiving Christians being labled bigotts for a firm stance on cultrally unacceptable doctrines. I have made the mistake of blasting Calvinists and put a wedge between me a dear calvinist friend here at Bible collage. Christ prayed for our unity before His Cruicifixion. I plead with you in the name of Jesus to please watch your words in posts like this as they come across as venomous and unloving. If a man is in error, He will respond better to one who lovingly corrects, rebukes teaches and trains in righeousness rather that a verbal axe to the face.

    In Christ

    Mike

    • christianclarityreview
      January 15, 2010 at 10:53 pm

      Mike,

      1. you are not my brother in Christ: you are deceived and are not even the friend of yourself
      2. I have no brothers in Christ in the Anabaptist/Arminian/Free Will movement: I perhaps have some who think to an ideology of friendship or ‘love’ that is a construct of Satan and is merely the emotional common sense of this passing era, even though it is their best honesty that of course it is not of Satan and that they are doing ancient wisdom. They are not even their own friends or the friends of their own families.
      3. In a classic Arminian mindset/ploy of Satan, that spirit in your flesh has implied that God is not in control of some things, maintains control over others, asks men to do his will in a speech not-Jesus Christ/Word of God, and is unable to save those whom He wishes to save or damn those whom He wishes to damn. You have implied that God as Word is the Same as Human speech ( non-creating speech ) ( which also would make God and Satan use the same speech –a thing which to say is blasphemy and the unforgivable sin ) and in addition have implied that when He speaks, He does not speak in conformity with new creation He has formerly spoken or will speak in the future, but that there can be a type of isolation of God as Word, in which what He Says can be separated from the rest of Himself as Word. Only after that pretense can you even begin to go into the Word of God and say God is using metaphors when He is not, or has given men free will by implication based on how He supposedly ‘uses’ a theoretical non-creating speech that is not-Him.

      I am sorry you were taken in the subtlety of Satan, but that’s not on me. That’s on you. You did not get to where you are now, quoting Scripture and making supposed intricate distinctions to make it seem that men have free will without God having sent many of His true servants your way and told you directly that you were both being lied to and were being a deceiver before now.

      As to Jeremiah: all you left out was that God opens the ears of the deaf and closes the ears to those who hear at His own will for His Own purposes and punishes those whose ears he closed.

      Isaiah 44:18 They have no knowledge, and understand not; for he hath plastered their eyes, that they may not see; and their hearts, that they may not understand.

      God tells Isaiah that he is speak to Israel for the specific purpose of closing their ears and eyes to His Word so that they will fall.

      “Isaiah 6:9-13 And he said, Go; and thou shalt say unto this people, Hearing ye shall hear and shall not understand, and seeing ye shall see and shall not perceive. Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and blind their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and be converted, and healed. And I said, Lord, how long? And he said, Until the cities be wasted, without inhabitant, and the houses without man, and the land become an utter desolation, and Jehovah have removed men far away, and the solitude be great in the midst of the land. But a tenth part shall still be therein, and it shall return and be eaten; as the terebinth and as the oak whose trunk remaineth after the felling: the holy seed shall be the trunk thereof.”

      Yet He still sends prophets to them and still speaks His Word ..in order to harden them. You pretend that if men don’t understand what God Says, then nothing evil can happen to them. It is a supposed tit for tat, a trade of attention spans in your way of thinking and as the creature you are now. But it is not so. All that God Says works together to bring about what He intends –even what you don’t know about.

      ———

      It is an egregious evil that you perpetuate on the premise that God Said men have free will or that He ‘meant it’. On the basis of your lie of free will, and the spreading of the speech that speaks ‘free will’, men and women are killing their own children in a supposed common sense that there won’t be enough of anything to go around and their ‘freedom’ will be impinged if they do not kill at least half of their children in the womb. Then the very things that were implied to exist that they would have enough of for having done so are stolen from them by manipulating their desires and by outright theft. You do this and call me ‘brother’? You spread that common sense that is the foundation of every evil as that lie and as that speech as if it were ‘gospel’, and think that you really are some kind of expositor of truth and peacemaker between brethren who have merely mis-understood each other or who have particular issues of pride that need managing in your emotionomics?

      I can care less if you think you are morally superior because you have engaged in a type of brother-speak common among the deceived that is supposedly proof they are Christians. No one is born again in your ‘ministries’, you only trick people into serving you on the basis of supposedly understanding ‘what they are to do with their free will’. Then, in that kind of outlook, you say Esau never served Jacob. He was forced of God to give him his own birthright for a meal of soup, not to even have the common sense to value it and then lost the blessing of the firstborn on top of that. I suppose you never read about him bowing and scrapping to Jacob and in a slave mind like yours, that means he was never demeaned: he lost everything, but he looked good to himself doing it.

      Tell me Mike, , if the Word of God through Issac wasn’t binding and he could just ‘change His mind’ in free will and God’s Word had that quality about it of being will-neutral that you need so badly for it to have in order to say you have free will, why didn’t Issac just nullify the blessing he gave Jacob when he found out about the deceit? Instead, he gives Esau an alternate blessing, which for himself, at least gave him specifically the right not to bow and scrap to Jacob on an emotional level, but did not restore to him what he had taken from him or the Word of God that he would serve him. The yoke broken had to be broken. It was not as if it was never there.

      Genesis 27:38-41 And Esau said to his father, Hast thou then but one blessing, my father? bless me–me also, my father! And Esau lifted up his voice and wept. And Isaac his father answered and said to him, Behold, thy dwelling shall be of the fatness of the earth, And of the dew of heaven from above;

        And by thy sword shalt thou live; And thou shalt serve thy brother; And it shall come to pass when thou rovest about, That thou shalt break his yoke from off thy neck.

      And Esau hated Jacob because of the blessing with which his father had blessed him. And Esau said in his heart, The days of mourning for my father are at hand, and I will slay my brother Jacob.

      Why did he need to break a yoke you claim wasn’t there and be given a blessing specifically to do that, yet which was only an earthly blessing and a limited one at that?

      and yet God Says of Esau:

      Malachi 1:2-5 I have loved you, saith Jehovah; but ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us? Was not Esau Jacob’s brother? saith Jehovah, and I loved Jacob, and I hated Esau; and made his mountains a desolation, and gave his inheritance to the jackals of the wilderness. If Edom say, We are broken down, but we will build again the ruined places, –thus saith Jehovah of hosts: They shall build, but I will throw down; and men shall call them the territory of wickedness, and the people against whom Jehovah hath indignation for ever. And your eyes shall see it , and ye shall say, Jehovah is magnified beyond the border of Israel.

      Your lie of what is revealed in Roman’s nine is simply a lie of Satan. God gives His Word and makes plain what He Said and intends by speaking. He Says through and to those to whom He reveals Himself:

      1 Corinthians 2:7- But we speak God’s wisdom in a mystery, that hidden wisdom which God had predetermined before the ages for our glory: which none of the princes of this age knew, (for had they known, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory;) but according as it is written, Things which eye has not seen, and ear not heard, and which have not come into man’s heart, which God has prepared for them that love him, but God has revealed to us by his Spirit; for the Spirit searches all things, even the depths of God. For who of men hath known the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? thus also the things of God knows no one except the Spirit of God. But *we* have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit which is of God, that we may know the things which have been freely given to us of God: which also we speak, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Spirit, communicating spiritual things by spiritual means .

      How is it you have known none of these things, but seek to explain God in the speech of the world and worldly wisdom? It is because you have not been born again, and the Word which profits those whom God has intended to be profited by it has not profited you –or any other expositor of human free will.

      1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him; and he cannot know them because they are spiritually discerned;

      You speak your speech and the common sense of it. That means nothing to God or His people. I have no brethren among such as you. Indeed, you are enemies of God and man and even of yourselves. The mindset you have makes you think you have to ‘be somebody’ for God to work through you, that of course is made plain to everyone who hears you: you’ve got them all thinking they have to impress other people into religion, must take steps within the societal norms of evil of our day to do that and so those under you end up the worst segment of society supposedly leading everyone to safety and through the same compromises they made themselves under your tutelage.

      Don’t call me your brother. We are not at all related. If God through me has to take a verbal ax to the face to stop you from killing others and yourself, so be it.

      James 3:17,18 But the wisdom from above FIRST is pure, THEN peaceful, gentle, yielding, full of mercy and good fruits, unquestioning, unfeigned. But the fruit of righteousness in peace is sown for them that make peace.

      1Timothy 1:5-7 But the end of what is enjoined is love out of a pure heart and a good conscience and unfeigned faith; which things some having missed, have turned aside to vain discourse, desiring to be law-teachers, not understanding either what they say or concerning what they so strenuously affirm.

      timothy

      In the Name of Jesus Christ, Amen

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